I bought into this shit when I first got into peptides

It’s such dogshit, just take HGH or don’t bother

Reta is worth the money, everything else is sort of unnecessary. Like yes mots-c will help but like is there any need ? Probably not

Yeah

If you can get accutane I’d just take that instead of the ghk cu but ghk cu will be effective

HGH is gold

There is a lot of cope around HGH for some reason. Not sure why. It’s relatively safe.

Hmg if you can afford

Suppose it all depends on what you want to achieve. But from the original post it’s fat burning presumably.

Theres this billionaire Bryan Johnson on yt that tries to reverse his aging and etc - he was asked about peptides being “dangerous” and not FDA approved and he actually dismissed most of that, except HGH which he said did “destructive damage”

It’s relatively safe when IGF-1 is monitored, which is mandatory for every person being treated medically. The same cannot be said for people blindly injecting some random amount of IUs, which tend to be far higher doses, but especially over a long periods. With rHGH so cheap that the lowest IQ can afford to run it year round with no clue what their IGF is will lead to disaster for some. The problems are slow to develop, like organ enlargement and bone deformities, often difficult to detect, and not necessarily easily linked to GH use, since few would be willing to admit it to their doctors. Then what’s the likelihood they’ll post about it on social media. Just recently you finally have some bodybuilders attributing the transformation of their facial structure to running GH at high doses, instead of blaming a permanent 50% increase in nose width and ear size, changes in shoe size, and rings no longer fitting, to “aging”. Yet even people prescribed the typical low clinical rHGH doses have occasionally fallen through the cracks and weren’t properly monitored, so their IGF-1 went too high, and after a few years ended up in very bad shape. If you want to be safe, you need to check IGF-1 and adjust dose so you either stay in physiological range, or no more than 1 standard deviation above it. And that’s going to be different for everyone. 6iu might be ok for one person and 2iu might be too much for another. If you don’t, and end up with a lifetime of joint problems and an enlarged, inefficient heart, don’t cry about not knowing the risks. Becoming “GH Ugly” and needing bigger shoes are the least of the problems.

I’d like to think that people taking HGH are somewhat responsible and tbh it’s on you if you aren’t responsible with it

Doesnt even run a lot compared to most open pros

In my experience at least 95% of people using GH now have no idea what their IGF-1 is. If they did, the most common question wouldn’t be “How many IUs should I use”, and they get a bunch of different answers, none of which are ever “start with 2 and check your IGF-1 after a couple of weeks and adjust”

Because you are asking soccer moms and random people outside of bodybuilders who use it and have used it for years and years, vs the random normal people who have no clue what they are doing

Can’t say I’ve spoke to many people or given guidance about taking HGH but like it’s their risk. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

Those pros are using like half a bottle to a bottle of serostim a night tho